What's Up, Wilmington?! With Roz & Aly

This week we bring on the founder of the very popular What's Up Wilmington, Roz! She is joined with her co-host of their NEW podcast, What's Up Wilmington the Podcast, Aly Bleau. 
In this episode Roz and Aly talk about exploring your city, the frequently asked questions they get, and why they believe now is the time to start a podcast for the brand! 

How to find Roz & Aly
Roz on IG: @whatsupwilmington
Aly on IG: @alyybleu
Podcast: Whats Up Wilmington 

Transcript

Chris: 0:31

welcome back everybody this week. It is gorgeous outside and we do have two gorgeous ladies in here talking to us about some fun stuff around town, but as per usual, you have'em, my boy, Chris Kellum, constant co-host, Tyler, y'all, and we bring on.

Roz: 0:47

Allie and Roz, we're still

Alyy: 0:50

figuring out how to introduce ourselves, who are

Tyler: 0:53

going to be the future podcasters of Wilmington too. So they're gonna be co-host with Roz being the founder of What's Up Wilmington. And then Allie is successful around the Port City in her real estate business, but she'll be co-host off of that podcast as well.

Roz: 1:11

Happy to be here. Here. Yeah.

Chris: 1:13

I'm so jealous. You guys have like cool backgrounds and everything we were just discussing. We'll, sound cool. I was like, we were discussing like how easy it is for a guy to walk out and be like, oh, hey, you're all, you look good. Yeah. I put a shirt on. They're like, well, I had to curl my hair and straighten it. I had to put some makeup on, make sure the contour was right.

Roz: 1:34

Oh yeah. And then when you get that compliment at work, they're like, oh, your hair looks really good today. I'm like, oh yeah. Well, I actually washed it. Right. I'm not on day five right now.

Chris: 1:43

Five days between washes. Yeah.

Alyy: 1:45

You have to train your hair, but it's a thing.

Roz: 1:48

Mm-hmm. See, there's a lot that goes

Alyy: 1:49

into being, yeah. There's so many things. Yeah. And

Tyler: 1:53

so since. Chris and I aren't good at planning ahead and stuff like that. That's also why we are working with Sway Creative just to throw in our, our marketing teams. So go ahead and check them out too. You've been hearing us talk about them and they have just upgraded and gone to a subscription model where you can actually go on and get your social media starting to look a little bit better like we have been doing and save you some time. Just like. Like being a guy and just throwing on a shirt and some jeans. You don't have to worry about curling the hair and everything.

Roz: 2:27

Sounds great. It

Chris: 2:29

is some days. Mm-hmm. Ideal. Yes. But this week we are doing something interesting. We have a rye whiskey from Stolen Wolf which is real fancy. It's from Lancaster County, pa, Lancaster County. Is it Lancaster? Or Lancaster? Don't say it like that.

Alyy: 2:48

It's like. Hop sale. Yeah. No, it's

Tyler: 2:51

top soul.

Roz: 2:53

That's how they know you're not from there. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. There you go. I learned that really quick. Lancaster.

Tyler: 2:58

Lancaster. Lancaster. Yeah, so there's, there's Lancaster where I'm from, and then there's Lancaster, which is in Ohio, and Lancaster, which is in California. Oh, see? Oh yep. Three different ways to say the same word from different areas. Interesting. Yeah. It's like Beaufort and

Chris: 3:11

Beaufort who was,

Tyler: 3:13

this says Beaufort. Oh no, there's a town called, there is Carolina, South

Alyy: 3:17

Carolina. There's a, I was like, people don't say that. Yeah, they're two separate places. Yeah, I understand that now. I meant like of our, this one, the North Carolina one.

Chris: 3:25

Oh no, I was just being silly. Oh yeah, I got it now. But it's, this distillery is in litt, which is also where they do the training for like Rolex watchmakers in the States. Mm-hmm. Which is kind of cool. I like watches. Plug. But it's the straight rye whiskey from them, which is a little different. It's supposed to be bold, brash, rye and cinnamon. All right. Should greet your nose. And then there's apricot, thyme, and maple syrup.

Roz: 3:50

I get the cinnamon along with mm-hmm. Just my nose burning. And

Chris: 3:53

it should have some oy flavors with brown sugar and toasted coconut, a little vanilla and pear on the tongue.

Roz: 4:00

That's a lot of flavors. I get the coconut. I know. That's

Chris: 4:02

what, that's why I read it. So you can be like, cheers. Cheers. Cheers. Cheer. Cheers. You do?

Alyy: 4:07

Oh, I shouldn't have had that mocha before. I bet I would be able to

Roz: 4:11

taste it for, I get the

Tyler: 4:13

coconut. Oh, I was gonna say, I can actually get it to coconut outta this one.

Alyy: 4:17

It's the aftertaste.

Tyler: 4:18

Yeah. Oh yeah, for sure. Mm-hmm.

Chris: 4:20

It is a 60% rye bill with a 30% corn and 10% malt. So it's a little bit of a sweeter mash which I'm not hating on. It's definitely a little bit smoother.

Roz: 4:30

I feel like it's a more summery taste. Yes. Right. Yeah. And for summer sipping on the porch,

Chris: 4:36

this is what I go through and argue all the time. I'm like, when should I drink this whiskey? Some of some rye whiskeys. I'm like, if I'm drinking it in the summer, I'm probably having like a hot flash cuz it's too spicy. Yeah, this stuff is good.

Tyler: 4:49

It's smooth. I was gonna say it's much more down your pallet style. Yes. A little bit sweeter of rye. That corn in there will do it for you.

Roz: 4:56

It's pretty light. It's it's

Chris: 4:58

corn. Sorry about that. We're on a tangent. But tell us a little about yourself. I assume you Allie, cuz Roz is like sipping.

Roz: 5:08

Yeah.

Alyy: 5:08

I am originally from northern New York. I moved to Wilmington about a year and a half ago. I lived in North Carolina prior about eight years ago in Greensboro, and I moved back home for a little bit, met my husband and he got a job with ge. So we got relocated down here. Which, you know, of course we were like, Man, that, that sounds horrible. It could have been Ohio.

Roz: 5:35

Exactly. Lancaster

Alyy: 5:36

in Lancaster, California. So yeah, we've been down here for about a year and a half. I am a former teacher, but I've been in real estate for about eight years and I just really love being involved in the community. And I think our community has so much to offer. There's always, you know, so many different businesses and things going on. So I also am the chapter director for Women's Social Club chapter here in Wilmington which is how I met Roz. She's one of my ambassadors and we put together some different events every month just for different women in the area and a lot of us, I'm sure this. No surprise, but are not from here. Mm-hmm. So yeah, I know. But just looking to always like build community. So I think that's why she and I get along so well. Even though she's more of a veteran,

Roz: 6:26

We just, I'm pretty sure we met over Instagram.

Alyy: 6:28

Yeah. Technically.

Roz: 6:30

We're the success story. I'm making my friends on social media.

Alyy: 6:33

Yes. I have met quite a few people on Instagram. Mm-hmm. But then we officially met. In person. Yeah. For social club. But yeah, that's pretty much me. I'm obviously married. I have two little girls and just looking to build a community in the area, so I like that.

Chris: 6:50

Yeah.

Roz: 6:51

So Roz, yes. You want my life story in 30 seconds? Ready? Go. Give me your elevator pitch. My elevator pitch. So I was born in Arkansas, don't remember any of it. Okay. My parents were in the Air Force, but we moved around a lot when I was a kid. So we've lived in West Virginia, Tennessee, a lot of different places in North Carolina, and then eventually ended up in Raleigh where I went to high school. And then, I moved here to come to U N C W because I was a beach bum at heart. Mm-hmm. Grew up listening to the Beach Boys. I'm like, I'm gonna live my life by the beach and not get a real job. And we're flip flops every day. So, came here for college, U N C W, fell in love with it. So did my parents. They followed me here and I was like, okay, well, you know, we can make this work. But just love the town. It was hard to leave. Mm-hmm. Moved to Raleigh a couple times. Moved back to Raleigh a couple times. Ended up coming back. Built a really great community here. Have a lot of friends still from college and, and you know, worked a lot of corporate jobs here. But I think my true passion is community. Growing up, you know, when you don't live anywhere for very long. You don't have that hometown. I'm making air quotes if you can't see me. But you know, I have some childhood best friends, but it's hard when you don't have that true community. Mm-hmm. Growing up. And so I think that's why I'm so passionate about things like, what's up Wilmington? Cuz I feel like it's a catalyst for a community. There's a lot of folks that reach out to me who. Have just moved here or have lived here for a long time, and they're like, Hey, where do you meet friends? Like, I wanna go do stuff, but I don't have anyone to do it with. And so, you know, I've worked a lot of corporate marketing jobs throughout Wilmington. I've been really lucky with those and love where I work. But what's up, Wilmington's? More of a passion project. Started when I was working for a local magazine. I got to go to all these really cool events, meet business owners, but, What I felt was missing was there was no platform to connect with community over really cool things I knew were happening. Mm-hmm. That weren't covered in traditional media. Those cool, like hidden gems and things to do. So that's really what, what's up Wilmington, is it's a way to build community for people to meet each other and to share all the really cool things we know happening out in the community. Yeah. That's

Tyler: 9:00

fantastic. That's definitely something that's needed in Wilmington as well too. An old business partner of mine started down a very similar journey of just kind of bringing it was mostly live music events to the thing, but you, your Instagram was something that we followed often just because it, it was the only really real source for that in Wilmington. So I do appreciate everything that you've kind of brought to Wilmington that way too. Absolutely. Yeah. And you have an amazing following as

Roz: 9:25

well. Thanks. Yeah. Well, you know, when I started, what's up Wilmington? I never wanted it to be about me, so I never put my face on there. I wasn't like a lifestyle influencer. That just wasn't my jam. I like being behind the camera. So the co-founder's, my sister, she's an amazing photographer. So she took a lot of the original photos, but I never wanted to have my face on it. And so I feel like folks connected with that because I didn't feel influenced to do something just based on what I was selling or telling them. But I feel like now the world is changing and folks want to connect with a person. Yeah. And so, you know, Allie and I are starting to do something really exciting and starting our own podcast and. We're gonna put our face out there and, and I think it's important to, to connect to a person behind the brand. So Definitely. I agree. Yeah.

Chris: 10:36

So you've been doing what's Up Wilmington for a long time. What started you down the path to expand into like podcast and when?

Roz: 10:48

Yeah, well I think serendipitously Allie and I met and we just kind of vibed from the beginning. We're both go-getters. We both love to do all of the things. And we're both chatting one day. Any gram three? Yeah, we have the same engram, if anyone's familiar with that. The overachiever. Yes. But but I think we just both had a passion for community and I felt like it was time to take What's up, Wilmington Pass? Just the fun. Things on Instagram cuz folks kept reaching out about where to meet people, how to make friends. And just wanna learn more than an Instagram story or post Could tell. Mm-hmm. And so I was chatting with Allie about that and she was like, I wanna start a podcast, but I don't wanna do all the work myself. And I'm like, funny, I wanna start a podcast for, what's up Wilmington. Don't wanna do all the work myself.

Alyy: 11:31

I also just don't wanna sit here and listen to my voice the entire time. Like I, I'm a conversationalist. Like I would much rather bounce ideas off of someone. Oh, for sure. Yeah. I love to collaborate and you know, Basically in our everyday life, what we're already doing with Social Club and what's up Wilmington, and things like that. Like we're already trying to involve all of these other businesses and business owners and people in the community. And this is just gonna be a great way to spread the word and, you know, answer a lot of questions for people. Cuz Roz gets a lot of questions on Instagram of like, what do I do here? Where's the best places? Like that kind of thing. But even myself, like I primarily help people relocate and once they get here, they're like, Now what do I do? Right? And so I'm like still building that relationship with them, but just having a resource like the podcast is really exciting.

Roz: 12:21

So, yeah, and it's kind of cool because we get to talk to folks who are. New to Wilmington mm-hmm. Who haven't moved here yet. Mm-hmm. Or maybe they have kids that go to U C W, they wanna know more about the town that they visit a couple times a year, but also people who have lived here for a long, long time. Mm-hmm. Yeah. That just wanna make new friends or go try new things. So I think we wanna give that back to the community and we're really passionate about local businesses and so just giving them a voice and a platform to share what they're doing. Mm-hmm. We have some really cool business owners and businesses popping up here. Yeah. Excited to share

Tyler: 12:52

that. That's awesome. Good. Yeah. So my other question is when, sorry, I didn't wanna go too far off a tangent. When someone asked like, Hey, what, what should I do in Wilmington here? Is it basically, Off of like, do you ask them questions like, Hey, what do you like to do? Like, what kind of things do you enjoy? Or is it kind of off of oh, this is what's coming up, this is what I enjoy doing. Where do you come up with

Alyy: 13:15

that knowledge? I think it's a little of everything. You know, even when I'm asking some of my clients, like, I generally work with a lot of families, but obviously not just families. Mm-hmm. But Being someone who has a family of my own, I can tell you from firsthand experience, okay, well these are the places that I like to go. This is what I like to do. But if you're not vibing with that, like tell me, tell me what you do like to do. I think there's just like so many different options. Mm-hmm. And there's just something for everyone. I was saying that earlier.

Roz: 13:42

Yeah. It's funny, some of the questions that I get on Instagram, I. People give a lot of context, which is really cool because I'm like, oh, I didn't know people wanted to know that or are coming for that reason. So I have, it's a lot of women, but actually there's a lot of men that follow us now I think. We had the percentage, didn't we? Yeah. And the percentage is ticking a little bit. Not, I wouldn't say older, but you know, there's a wider range now. Mm-hmm. So folks will reach out and be like, I'm coming for two and a half days with my mom and my sister, and my mom doesn't drink, but we wanna go to somewhere with live music. Like, what should we do? And so I'm like, wow, that's very specific. I have some things in mind. So I think the folks that ask questions are coming to wiling for a specific reason or wanna do something specific and they just. They wanna hear it from somebody else. They wanna give suggestions. So it's really helpful. Folks give a lot of cool context. Mm-hmm. They come here for a lot of cool reasons and I'm like, oh, I should probably write that down. Right. That on a blog post.

Chris: 14:38

Definitely. I like the, the, think about that. Cuz me and my wife just went to Charlotte. It's like, I should've looked up something that would've been like this so I could find stuff to do. I mean, we had like 36 hours. Mm. It was like, I don't know what we're doing.

Roz: 14:55

I'm sure there's a blog post of 36 hours in Charlotte. What to do in 36 hours if there's not, but

Alyy: 15:00

if it's not now, it's gonna be out there. I was gonna say, I follow like a Charlotte Instagram. There's like a travel family. They, they blog about it and they drop all this cool information about Charlotte and things that are happening. And it seems like they have that a lot of different places.

Roz: 15:16

I think that's where. The industry's going. Yeah, because I don't wanna hear it from the news or a Right. A paid commercial. Mm-hmm. I wanna follow folks who are doing the things and discover it through them. And so Instagram has this really cool feature where you can look at a map of things and pictures people have pinned in certain areas, so you can see what folks are doing in that area and what local businesses are visiting. And so, that's what we do when my husband and I travel. I do it way more than him. He very kindly lets me kind of do my over-planning for our trips and I just scour Instagram and look at all the folks who are there and traveling there and that's how we find some of our favorite places. I'm

Tyler: 15:58

that too. Yeah. Yeah. I'm heading down to Charleston this, this week coming up and I was doing the same thing because, so I. Got my hotel room, and then it's like, oh, things to do in Charleston. And I was like, okay, I'll click on that. And then it's just like the standard, like the standard. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, visit the battery, visit Rainbow Road. Like, I'm like, okay, wonderful. Yeah, like where are the lo where are the locals at? What are they doing? Like, what do you do like when you live in Charleston? And so I went to Instagram, I went to TikTok and I was like scrolling through there and I'm like, oh, this is a really neat place I never would've heard of otherwise. And like, yeah. Whereas everyone hanging out at, you can see like the heat maps of different things and stuff too. So yeah,

Roz: 16:32

it's kind of like having a BFF in that town. You're just like, okay, where would you go? Right. Like, I wanna know where you would go. Not, you know, where someone's paying to tell me to go. Mm-hmm. Essentially sometimes. But yeah, we found some of our favorite places that way. Yeah.

Tyler: 16:45

What do you typically hear from. I guess not native Wilmington, but people that have been here for a while, what are typ the typical questions that you get from

Roz: 16:53

them? It's not a question. It's, oh my God. Don't tell everyone how awesome Wilmington is. Don't give away all the secrets. That's so funny. Seriously. So, yeah. Yeah. So I put up this Instagram. Real about how Wilmington is one of the top places to move to. Oh, I did the same thing. Yeah. And they were so mad. People were like, don't tell everyone, we don't want everyone moving here. Which, I mean, I have mixed feelings about because, you know, I, I also don't want the traffic to get worse. But someone asked a really cool question the other day about, you know, what are some of the big changes that we've seen since a lot of people are coming to Wilmington and moving in. And I'm like, well, some of the. Bad things are good things too. Mm-hmm. Like the traffic, you know, we have to keep up with the infrastructure, but also the more people, it means there's more of a need for like cool restaurants and business better economy services. Yeah. And we get cooler concert na, you know, like there's right bigger concert venues. So, I mean, I don't hesitate to share all the things, but the locals are usually. Like, oh, thanks for showing that spot. Like, I thought I was the only one who knew about it. Or it's a lot of folks who respond and say, yes, I've been going there for years. Like, yeah, it's so cool that like, you know, about this place too.

Tyler: 18:01

I guess that kind of gives you more credence too, especially for the people that are looking for you. Like, oh yeah, look at all of this. Like, cause I'm sure that's more in the comments, right? Yeah. Yeah. So that, that's pretty cool.

Roz: 18:10

Yeah, sometimes I get some really cool suggestions from them too. You know? Yeah. I think that it's a lot of tips and tricks. That's the, the other

Alyy: 18:17

side that we're excited about with the podcast. Mm-hmm. Like, it's really gonna be like community driven. So like, we're gonna base a lot of it off of like the questions and the feedback that she sees on her end through the Instagram and kind of go from there and answer all of those questions and, you know, give that feedback and tell you about the places that you're asking about.

Roz: 18:38

But also I'm excited to bring on some of the local business owners who have been here since Mayfair was a cow pasture. And there are some folks I have in mind, and I can't wait for them to share their stories of like, this is what Wilmington was like. Mm-hmm. 25 years ago. Here's why I opened this business. And it's cool for folks to hear about that who are only in Wilmington, have been here for the past five months, and they don't know anything other than what it is now. And so just some of the history of Wilmington and why it is the way it is. That's a cool part to share. Yeah. Mm-hmm.

Tyler: 19:09

I think it would be cool for the listeners that listen to Whiskey and Wisdom to also listen to you guys too, cuz you're kind of getting two different aspects of the same location. Yeah. And like that's what we're excited about cuz we're seeing like the podcast community just grow in general around here. And just the different aspects that you're seeing from different people and the different communities that they're involved in and kind of how they all little bit inter like connect with each other. Yeah. The one thing that I tell people that first move to Wilmington. Is that Wilmington is the largest small town. Oh yes. That I have ever like could imagine.

Roz: 19:42

Oh yeah. And that's why I feel like it. I always try to be kind, especially local businesses and services. You know, if I go in, I don't have a great experience. I don't ever share that on Instagram until I actually approach the business. Say like, Hey, it mm-hmm. Whatever it is, took forever to get my food and, you know, whatever the complaint might be because I know that sometimes that is their lifeline and that's their business. And, and so everyone I've met in, in Wilmington I know is super kind and is trying their best. And so I think that's a really good point. And you know, everyone's connected to everyone. So you can't make enemies in Wilmington? No.

Tyler: 20:23

I mean, you can't, you can't, yeah. It is not last. Right? Yeah. You'll probably move soonly soon after.

Roz: 20:29

But I think because it is that big small community, I, I feel like folks are more understanding and kind to each other too, because we're all in it together, whatever it might be. Definitely has that community vibe. So, I mean,

Alyy: 20:40

even being a newbie, I mean, I'd still consider myself a newbie like. I've never not felt at home here. Mm-hmm. It's just instantly been home. It's been the people, it's been, you know, the places it's been, the businesses. It's just like everyone here in my experience has been super welcoming. And. I'm not all that

Roz: 21:01

homesick, which is great. Yeah. Good. I do wonder about that, like, if people are there, people that move here and just don't like it, and I feel like some of the few folks I have met who don't like it is because they can't find community. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Which is like

Alyy: 21:15

what we wanna offer. Yeah, because I, I just, I, I'm sure there's reasons why you would miss. Wherever you're originally from. Right. Whether it be family or whatever, but we wanna offer that community sense to people so that you know, if you're not originally from here, then welcome home.

Tyler: 21:34

Yeah. I love it. Mm-hmm. There's actually a woman who I met who moved here in October of last year. And what I was talking to her too. I was like, oh. It was like, have you acclimated here? Like, how have you like met people? And she was like, it's, it's amazing. And I found my people so fast. Mm-hmm. Oh, that's so cool. She was like, I found my people, I found my community. And it was, it took no time at all for her to do it. Yeah. And I was like, that's what I love about. This place. Like if you let someone know that you're new here. Mm-hmm. Probably nine and a half outta 10 people will instantly try to connect you. Like, oh, what do you like? Oh, you need to go, like, meet the these people. Or, oh, you should go hang out in this area. And I think that's what's really neat about this

Alyy: 22:08

place. Yeah. That's how it's felt for me. I think since we moved here, it's kind of just all fallen into place. Not just for me, but like my whole family and we've really thrived here. So if people. Do feel like they're struggling with the transition of moving to a new city and it feels so unknown or maybe too big or whatever it might be. We just wanna put out our hand and welcome them in, so I love

Tyler: 22:31

that. Yeah. Have you ever got this question from some of the naysayers of Wilmington, that Wilmington's too small?

Roz: 22:40

Sometimes, and, and to be honest, sometimes I feel that way. Not that wilmington's too small, but I wish we had more of certain things. Mm-hmm. I think when I hear it the most is folks coming from those larger cities mm-hmm. That have more diversity. There's a lot more cultural things going on. Mm-hmm. A lot more different types of restaurants, events. And so that's typically when I hear it, is when folks come in from larger cities and, and I get it. I totally get it right. You know, my mom's Korean and I love Korean food and I wish there were. Korean, me too. More Korean restaurants here than just one. Right. And, and so I get it some of the time, but I think that's the exciting part, is those folks are moving here. Mm-hmm. And I think that they're feeling that call to be like, okay, well I'll open a restaurant, or they put the word out, it's like, Hey, we need X, Y, Z, which was in my hometown. And so, you know, if the right person hears it, They see it as an opportunity. Yeah. Yeah.

Tyler: 23:32

That's what I like about the growth down here too, is that you're starting to see those people that are coming down or visited and they're like, oh, I love it down here, and I noticed they don't have this from my hometown. I'm gonna do it. Yeah. And so that's amazing. That's what I enjoy about the

Roz: 23:45

growth part of it. Yeah. Yeah. We were just talking about, we were at a picnic at Airy with a bunch of women this morning, and someone's like, there's not like a great deli here. And I mean, there's a few. Mm-hmm. There's two that I love. But I think as more folks from up North move down mm-hmm. There's gonna be those folks who do open those like crazy good Dees that you see up north. So that's the cool part about folks moving in from other parts of the country. I was thinking

Alyy: 24:07

like there's a lot of New Yorkers that are moving here. Mm-hmm. And I do not deny that. Which is also really great though because there's a food truck out there that just they have garbage plates from, originally from like Rochester. Right. And I think I saw there's like a, a restaurant. Of the owners are from New York and they have chicken Riggs. Mm-hmm. And just like, you'll see that food coming and you'll see the culture coming and it's just like, it might be a little bit slower, but I definitely feel like it's happening.

Roz: 24:34

Yeah. And I feel like Wilmington's a prime place for small business owners. Yeah. It's really hard to open a small business regardless. Mm-hmm. But I feel like in Wilmington there's. There's ways that we make it easier. And I think the community, you know, the first thing my husband said when we moved down here, he's from outside of Asheville. He's like, man, there's like not a lot of chain restaurants here. Mm-hmm. Which he was saying is a good thing, right? Yeah. And I think that's the coolest part about Wilmington sometimes is we're so small business. Mm-hmm. And like local friendly that it makes it a little bit easier for those folks too. I met this

Tyler: 25:02

guy from out of town one time and we were just sitting at a bar and we were just talking back and forth and he was like, is there like a Red Lobster? And I was like, you are at the beach with my friend.

Roz: 25:12

I'm like, I can tell, I know the shame because I love their cheddar biscuits when I was was young, but Right. But yeah, we don't, I don't, I was like,

Tyler: 25:19

I can name, probably have one of those half a dozen places right now. So

Chris: 25:23

there was a Red Lobster Oh. In the nineties

Roz: 25:26

and it, so see here, hear it from a local Right. Who's been here for forever.

Tyler: 25:31

Yeah. No wonder. Yeah. Where was it?

Chris: 25:33

I wanna say it was on Lander. They

Roz: 25:35

tried. They tried to compete. Oh, there was also like a rib place off Oleander. It was like a chain rib place that does great everywhere else. Smoke

Chris: 25:44

No. TGI Fridays, there was a tgi Oh. T G Fridays lasted a long time. We had a s, smokey Bones

Roz: 25:49

and O Charley's.

Chris: 25:50

Yes. Oh yeah. We had a, we had a bunch of stuff that worked and then it didn't. Yeah. But because Chris is here to poke the bear, And figure out who's the real villain. I wanna know what is your favorite burger joint in town?

Alyy: 26:06

Ooh, easy grin, burger. Oh,

Roz: 26:10

very divisive. Very divisive. Sorry. No, it's fine. That was an easy answer for me.

Tyler: 26:17

No, I, so in my defense, I'm not mad at the answer because I've never had it, but I, I was what? Yeah, I know, but the only reason why I made the reaction is because Chris won't stop hounding me about it.

Alyy: 26:28

Okay. I literally was saying earlier, I track them down like I find the food truck tracker and if I'm feeling a burger, I'm like, where that, what do you love about it? I don't know. It's just so like, it has all the flavors, it has the right, like it's just so good. I will say Mess Hall is up there too. I was gonna say mess hall. But they're not open right now, so.

Roz: 26:47

So.

Chris: 26:49

I am divisive a thousand percent. So I, I'm from here. Every time my family comes into town, like my in-laws, I'm like, let's go find a burger place. Yeah. So I'm always looking for some, some sort of burger joint. But I love Grim Burger because they do smash burgers. So they're thin Patty,

Tyler: 27:05

they Yeah.

Chris: 27:06

But they have good flavor. Mm-hmm. Okay. Like, cuz you can get a smash burger that's just grease and nothing to it, which I've had before in this town. And I'm just like, eh. But my favorite part about GR Burger is the fries.

Roz: 27:20

Oh, these are so good. Crucial. Gotta have good, good. Like if

Chris: 27:23

you have a good burger and you have fries, I have fries. The flavor like it, they have that like double crisp taste to'em. Like, it, it's just like, hmm,

Roz: 27:31

you gotta try it. I'm about to drop a real hot take on a burger. I'm, let's go, let's go. I'm ready. Okay. Don't quote me on this. For the past like two years, cuz I haven't had in about two years. But the best burger I've ever had in Wilmington is at Yossi, and it's really, it's hot take. It's, it's a Coba beef burger. I don't know if I was just real hungry or I had been to a few bars before we got verified. That was Difference. That Burger, I still think about it and I've only had it once and it, I, it was so good. It was good. It was real good. Yeah. Yeah. Hot. I'm try it out.

Tyler: 28:06

So the two places that I think of like Burger, like actual Burger Wise, not like Smash Burger. Yeah. Is. Pose. Oh. Which is Love it. Bridging out Charleston. Yeah. But brought it up here, which was nice. And then Winnie's

Roz: 28:18

Tavern. Winnie's. I've heard Winnie's is like really good. Winnie is like a

Alyy: 28:22

locals. Literally. Yeah. Anytime you go on the Wilmington Facebook group and somebody asks where to get a good burger, Winnie's, Winnie's is usually like 50% of the answers. Yeah. Yeah.

Roz: 28:31

Like a lot of the people throw up. I feel like Winnie's was grinberg before Grinberg, right? Yeah,

Alyy: 28:36

maybe. Okay. But like Winnie's is open. Like they have a brick and mortar.

Tyler: 28:40

Mm-hmm. Yes. And it's like the size of the studio. No, it's bigger. It's bigger than, it feels like the size big. We're just saying it. Yeah,

Chris: 28:49

exactly. It's been around for decades. Yeah. Okay. Mm-hmm. And it's off like the shipyard. Mm-hmm. So if it's in the middle of freaking nowhere and they're still killing it. Yeah,

Roz: 28:59

yeah, yeah. You know, you're good. It's kind of like when satellite. Popped up. It's like it was out in the middle of nowhere. That was before South Front District was a thing. Yeah. And that bar has like a cult. I mean, I love it, but like it was in the middle of nowhere. So if it, if it's like that and it's popular, you know, it, there's something that's good. Yeah. When it's, when it's a

Tyler: 29:18

destination. Yeah. You have to plan to make it there. Yeah.

Chris: 29:21

I'm really sad. No one said like, fork in cork.

Roz: 29:24

I've had their burger cork. It's good. Is good. I haven't had, but here's my thing about forking Cork is every time you try to go there, there's like an hour and a half wait. Mm-hmm. Which,

Chris: 29:32

which tells you something

Roz: 29:34

is that people are willing to wait an hour and a half forever. If I want to eat, I need to eat like Yeah. We get hangry. Yeah. Maybe that's the difference between men and women. Yeah. I got a real slow like ramp up for hunger. We go from zero to 60

Alyy: 29:47

in two seconds, we're like, okay, we're hungry now feed

Roz: 29:50

me the happy way. Y'all notice the. The restaurants around Wilmington, they're starting to not take reservations or cos mm-hmm. And I think it's cause they get so busy. Yes. Yeah. But yeah, fork Con Cork doesn't take reservations or Colin, I don't think, don't quote me on that, but like last summer we tried to go, it was like an hour and a half wait. And my husband goes, I wanna know the person who, you know, they said there's an hour and a half wait. And they're like, okay, we'll wait. Like. Okay. Well, yeah, there's one of'em in the room. I

Tyler: 30:15

was gonna say, so Chris,

Chris: 30:16

here, here's the thing. I always give every place two shots. Oh yeah. Right? Because the first time could be amazing, and the second time you're like, oh, that was just luck. Or vice

Roz: 30:27

versa, or vice versa. So it's gotta be consistently Yes.

Chris: 30:29

Right. So that's why I give'em two tries before I even leave them bad route review or good one. But if there's an hour and a half wait in a space that it makes sense, I'll wait. Because fork and cork, sh I can scoot over to a bar. Mm-hmm. True. I can go have a drink somewhere. I can like walk around downtown, get some ice cream, do something. Do they have

Roz: 30:48

like the, the

Alyy: 30:48

text? Yes. Like that's a game changer in the

Roz: 30:50

scene. You're like, you get text, but you've gotta go and like preemptively. Yeah. Like want to eat there. Yeah. You can't just be like, walked down the road and be like, I want a forking cork burger and want and get one. I'm hungry now. No,

Chris: 31:03

that, that's a thousand percent. Like there's certain places where you're like, oh, I can think about it. And then others that are like, oh, this spur of the moment. The fork Concor is not a spur of the moment.

Roz: 31:13

No. What's y'all's like? Favorite new spot that's open lately? Do you have one? What is your

Chris: 31:18

definition of

Roz: 31:19

lately in the past, since Covid. Okay, so since 2020

Tyler: 31:26

in past Fox is Hole in the Wall. Oh yeah. Yeah.

Roz: 31:30

They just opened, opened up. Oh, you saw that place yesterday? Yeah. Yesterday. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Bar Crest used to be. Yep. Yep. Okay.

Alyy: 31:35

It's good.

Tyler: 31:37

I, I love it. Yeah. It's actually the same owner as Rebellion. Oh, they did a fantastic job. They got all over there. They do. Yeah. A lot of whiskey. Yeah. He was on the podcast. Yeah, he was on the podcast. But yeah, I went there a couple weeks ago and I, I was extremely surprised with how good the food was. Cool.

Roz: 31:56

I was banging, what food is it? I mean, we passed it the other day. Or yesterday? It was yesterday. Yeah. All the

Tyler: 32:02

days Black. Actually, I had a smash burger there and that was pretty darn good. Oh. But I heard that they have a. A chicken sandwich that I guess they're gonna start doing a special on Sunday for, it's literally

Chris: 32:13

winter. Like it has a funky name. Not winter Chicken dinner. Chicken dinner. Okay. It's, it's because of Chick-fil-A being closed

Roz: 32:19

on Sunday. They're

Alyy: 32:20

like, I mean, that's amazing. Cause every time I want Chick-fil-A it's Sunday. Yeah. So, yeah. So that's why they're

Tyler: 32:25

doing it. So, but they're meal Great marketing. Yeah.

Chris: 32:29

Yeah. Every photo I've seen, it's a big boy plate. Like, it's not like, oh, hey, here's a little bit of lettuce, little meat. Yeah. It's like, I'm gonna cut this in half and take two-thirds of it home. Like it's, it's good

Roz: 32:42

for, I love

Alyy: 32:43

leftover me. Yeah, it

Tyler: 32:44

sounds good. So one of the guys next to me actually ordered that chicken sandwich and it was massive, like it was overflowing over top of like the bun and stuff. And I was like, oh my gosh. They kind,

Roz: 32:54

you need like a fork and a knife to eat. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. We should go on

Alyy: 32:57

a Sunday. Throw on the podcast

Chris: 33:00

if we want to. You can go after this episode. So that's the question. Are you asking about tarbucks food, alcohol, or

Roz: 33:08

clothing? Ooh, all of the above. Any of the above? Yes.

Chris: 33:11

Okay. So, Hmm. Yes. I'm gonna have to go grin burger for food. Hmm. Because we go so much like I went during, like they opened, like right after things started like popping off. Yeah. Because g Smith. Opened a brick and mortar and Ty was like, you should buy that truck. And I was like, nah, I'm good. You did for real. We, we almost had a food truck. Oh.

Alyy: 33:33

That would've been a fun endeavor

Chris: 33:34

for you. The chicken sandwich is called the Sunday Savior Sunday.

Roz: 33:38

That's just holding the wall. Love it. That's what I'm here for.

Chris: 33:41

Good marketing. Yeah. Oh it was. But I like GR burger. They're actually really great, even though they hit only like three or four places consistently. Mm-hmm. The owners. Sam always knows me. I walk up, she's like, oh, hey, you want your usual?

Roz: 33:57

That's so awesome. That's like, that's the

Alyy: 33:59

best thing. Spot for like locals. Yeah. Mm-hmm. I love when I can walk up somewhere and they're just like the usual. Yeah.

Roz: 34:06

Yes, yes. That, that's why I love my coffee spots, and so I heard the same thing. One of my friends is every time we go to Grinberg, we're in the back of the line. The owner flags us down's like, Hey, I know what you want. Like, I've already started it. I'm like, that's awesome. That's how you build, that's how you build a great business. Well, I felt bad because

Chris: 34:23

like my wife loves a grim burger, but she doesn't like caramelized onions. Mm-hmm. So she takes it off and she puts like, sorry to blow your spot, but she puts like the, the fried onions, like the onions straws instead. And I've come, gone up a few times and they've been like, I'm sorry, we're out of the onions straws.

34:42

Oh,

Roz: 34:42

they know. They know. They know. They're like, before I order,

Chris: 34:44

I'm like, that's how you know. It's a good spot. Yeah. Let's think Bars, I mean it's, we all know what your favorite is. Everyone knows I love the Cargo District. Yeah. So come out here. I think all the bars are great around here just cuz there's so much variety. Mm-hmm. And I can be like, okay, what do I want today? I can walk over and have just a beer or wine or I can walk and have a cocktail. Get some food in cocktail, I can go have like a fancy whiskey drink. So I will just label the Cargo district.

Roz: 35:14

Okay. That's fair. Yeah, that is. We'll let that slide, especially if you're gonna

Tyler: 35:18

hop. Yes. Yeah. You know, we do that

Chris: 35:20

a lot too. Yeah. I'm waiting for Wilmington to get cool enough to be like, Hey, this district you can walk with a drink in. I'm like, we were

Roz: 35:28

talking about Manifest we about that yesterday too. They were talking about doing that downtown, downtown Front Street. Do we know if that's a thing yet? I

Chris: 35:35

think they're still trying.

Tyler: 35:36

Yeah. Okay. There's

Roz: 35:37

a lot of legalities. It's very small area they were gonna do it in, so it's like you could walk

Alyy: 35:40

one, it's gonna be like a block, block radius or something. Yeah. But there's only two

Chris: 35:43

bars in that too. Yeah, exactly Right.

Tyler: 35:46

Oh, it's hard to do here because 16th Street runs right through the middle of the cargo district. Mm-hmm. And you would need actually an overpass for the people to walk over. Yeah, true. Cause you don't want people drinking, playing Frogger across 16th Street. Yeah. Oh

Chris: 35:58

my God. I mean, Charles, I hadn't thought about it or not Charleston. Savannah, you can drink downtown. Yeah, we were talking about

Tyler: 36:04

And they're still traffic too. Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. They trust their people more

Roz: 36:08

than us, I guess. Just might need a bigger insurance policy. Right. I, I'm waiting for Cargo District to get like an interactive map because like, I feel like there's so many things popping up and I'm like, oh wait, is it in this area? Is it in. The other parking lot. Like what do you mean by interactive app? Like, you know, I want them to have an app where it's like food and it just pings all the like little food plate. It's like Cargo District sounds like our

Alyy: 36:30

next project.

Roz: 36:32

Guess I'm gonna make an app. Yeah. Manifesting that right? For someone to do.

Chris: 36:37

But I also don't buy clothes, so that's why I was asking if you wanna retail. Cause I don't buy anything like that. Mm-hmm.

Tyler: 36:41

How about for you two?

Roz: 36:44

Hmm. You can go first. Oh man. I'm gonna need to think about that. You had time. I feel like, yeah.

Alyy: 36:49

I feel like I hop around town so much, but like cargo district has always been a huge draw for me. Like, I love it over here. I think it's so innovative. Mm-hmm. It's not something that. Would normally be found, like where I'm from. Right. And thrive the way that it does. Like, I feel like it just works. Mm-hmm. And I feel like the whole community here is just, they embrace each other, whether you're a maker or whether you own like a restaurant or whatever it might be. We did a workshop with we did. One with Bookworm pottery, and then we did one with high Spirits. Concrete. Mm-hmm. And like they all know each other. And like the concrete one, we did it at Alcove and Blue Cup brought coffee and we saw that. Yeah. That was us. Yeah. And that was fun. Okay. It just, like, it just makes collaborating so easy. Yeah. And so yeah, cargo District is up there for me. Everything within it and everything that comes to it has always been really great.

Roz: 37:47

Oh man, it's so hard to, I don't like to play favorites. Well, and I also have my staples that I go to all the time, and so my husband and I have like, we keep talking about putting together a list. Mm-hmm. There's like, I have a new car and it has like this voice memo app. So like we're driving around and we're like, Leaving voice memos for ourself, like, oh, visit this. And this restaurant we just passed which we'll never listen back to this, but it's, wait, I actually use those when I'm driving

Alyy: 38:13

though. Like, I literally will like, well, there's, there's

Roz: 38:15

a use case for

Alyy: 38:15

them. Yeah, there's so many. When I'm driving I'm like, oh, I think, I think of all of the random things and I'm like, I can't forget that. But I don't have a sticky note cause I'm driving or whatever it might be. And so I'll just be like, Hey, leave me a memo, like, remind me later. One of the

Roz: 38:29

places that I really like, so I'm not a vegan, but the greenhouse, the restaurant that opened kind of near Wrightsville Beach, I would say their cocktail list is pretty cool. I feel like they're the first ones to really, I. Do mocktails. Mm-hmm. In a cool way. Mm-hmm. And they use like CBD infused stuff in their drinks. Mm-hmm. And so I feel like you can kind of get the same experience even if you don't drink alcohol. And so I just think there's a lot of passion behind what they're doing and it's innovative for Wilmington. She's

Alyy: 39:00

really knowledgeable about all of it too. Like the owner is very involved and she'll tell you exactly what's in your food and where it came from. Mm-hmm. A lot of it is because they have the greenhouse there. Right. And yeah. That's a really cool

Roz: 39:11

place. Yeah. It's really neat. And it's owned by a woman. Yeah. Which is pretty cool. Yeah.

Tyler: 39:16

We work really close to there, so I, I always wanna get over there, but they're open usually in the afternoons,

Alyy: 39:21

so I'm like, ah, I always forget

Roz: 39:22

about it. Definitely check it out. And then really like, I'm just like a true blue stand, so like anything they do. Mm-hmm. True Blue is one of my favorite restaurants and like, I recently just went to brunch for the first time there on a Saturday or Sunday. I was like, man, I, if I knew this is what brunch was like, I would be there every weekend. We love a good brunch and like they have big plates at brunch. Yeah. Like it, it was a lot of food. But it's a cool spot. So I work right across the street from there and it's feel like, kind of feels the niche for whatever you need. If you just wanna drink at the bar, if you want some like little food there. Wanna meet friends, they're like a nice fancy schmancy dinner. That's where I take

Tyler: 39:56

a lot of clients and like wholesalers and stuff. Yeah. Is like just easy. It's a Mayfair, like for me just to walk right across the street. Yep.

Alyy: 40:02

Yeah. My husband does the same thing. It's that Or Blue water. Yeah.

Chris: 40:06

Smart. Mm-hmm. So what we're saying is there's gonna be an episode. On your podcast of like top places to visit. Oh,

Roz: 40:14

top places for sure. It sounds like we need to do a burger rating. We should just try a lot of them. Yes. We had talked

Alyy: 40:19

about doing that for like everything. So burger, pizza, coffee, like a little bit of everything. Yes. And just kind of have a rating system. I will

Roz: 40:27

not pick a favorite

Alyy: 40:28

coffee. I cannot pick

Roz: 40:29

a favorite either. I'm not. Doing that to any of my folk because I love all of'em.

Alyy: 40:34

But you can, you can give us a favorite. It really

Tyler: 40:36

depends on what kind of coffee I'm getting that day. True. That's fair. So yeah, that would be hard. So like, and I drink any and all type of coffee. So like if you tell me like what's your favorite, like cold brew, I'm gonna tell you one place favorite, just regular cup of coffee is another. Another latte might be another. Like, it really depends for me.

Alyy: 40:53

Hmm. Let's go. Latte.

Tyler: 40:56

Good one. So believe it or not, There is a oat milk latte that I love to get from Kie. Crazy.

Roz: 41:03

Ooh. Oh and oh, so you work over in that area. Right. So that makes sense. Mm-hmm. I feel like, and

Tyler: 41:08

it's really good too. I mean, I've had plenty of like oat milk lattes in different parts of town, but like that one is really

Roz: 41:14

good. I go there a lot. I'm gonna have to try that cause I work in that area. Oh yeah,

Tyler: 41:19

yeah, yeah. You know Kelsey back there? Yeah. The owner. Yeah. She's awesome. So she's the one that got me

Alyy: 41:23

onto it, I guess. I didn't realize they served coffee there.

Roz: 41:26

Oh yeah. Well you do now. Yeah.

Chris: 41:28

Really kill you. Crazy for not knowing that. Sorry. I don't actually drink coffee like that. Huh? I

Roz: 41:35

drink. How refreshing. You drink caffeine? Yeah. No, not really. What's that like? So you just wake up and you're just ready for the day? We have so many questions. Teach me your way.

Chris: 41:45

So I saw this meme the other day. It's like those people who have ADHD and just like live through life with nothing. How is it like, I'm like,

Roz: 41:54

We're like that, but with caffeine, caffeine,

Chris: 41:57

caffeinated. I literally, my wife wakes up and like 15 minutes later I, because she has to get ready, I'll roll outta bed blank to get my contacts in place and then start her coffee and I'm just rolling. How amazing. Wow. It's painful. Yeah. I was also born in the middle of the day, so I always have a crash in the middle of the day. Oh. So like I need, I

Roz: 42:18

feel like I need an app. I was born at at night. Wait, you said you were born in the middle of the day? Mm-hmm. Is

Alyy: 42:23

that a thing? Whatever time you're you're born,

Chris: 42:26

typically, that's like how you're, those are typically

Roz: 42:29

like your rises. That

Alyy: 42:30

makes sense. I was born in the middle of the day too. Yeah,

Roz: 42:32

well I was born at like 11:00 PM at night and my coworkers. Kind of have this ongoing joke about how I love to work out late at night and they're like, I'm in bed sleeping. By the time you're coming home from the gym or you're doing your workout, like that is like my best life is like, that

Alyy: 42:48

makes sense. I've never heard that before. Yes.

Roz: 42:50

Also,

Chris: 42:51

why I am a proponent that the world should be done with these stupid nine to five jobs. Mm. Mm-hmm. Because everyone works at different times and works better at different times. True,

Roz: 43:01

very true. But, And that's why I feel like some people are morning workout people and some people are night. I tried to do that whole workout in the morning before work, and I crash by like, yeah, not me, noon. And I, I feel like my strength, like say if I'm trying to squat or lift a large weight, I can lift way less in the morning than I can at night. I don't know the signs behind that, but it's a thing. I can

Alyy: 43:24

serve energy throughout the day. I mean, I'm constantly running on coffee, but without it, I, I will just stop. But like, I just kind of have this steady, steady go throughout the day. Maybe that's why I never have like a burst of energy to go work out.

Chris: 43:38

Yeah. I get, if I have to get one, I'll go to port City and I'll get a black and tan. Oh, Java. Yeah. Yeah. But that's like, everyone's like, oh, we're doing a coffee run. What do you want? And I'm like can I have a apple? Cider, like a hot apple spice or some tea.

Tyler: 43:56

The steamed apple cider at Starbucks is good. Oh, just

Roz: 44:00

is that like a fall drink? You can

Tyler: 44:01

get it any time, but yeah, that's typically when I get it. Yeah.

Alyy: 44:04

Okay. That does sound good. Anytime. Yeah. I'm gonna have to try it as a, like a Northerner who like really

Roz: 44:09

loves cider You.

Chris: 44:11

No. So it's hot apple spice. They're not gonna label it cider. Okay. Because it's pretty much just steamed apple juice and they put other flavors into it. I mean, I'm here for that. So it's good in November, right? And early December

Roz: 44:23

there's a little ju outside. Yes, you need something cozy

Chris: 44:26

if you, if you need somebody to like label times of the year to do things. I'm the person for you.

Tyler: 44:32

The Chris doesn't like this, but the mold apple So mold, apple cider. Oh yeah. Mold, apple cider. Yeah. Over at bull City. Ooh. Oh, that was pretty good. They no longer have it cuz it's the summer and now they have like their Oh, do it in the fall. Yeah, but they have their frozen stuff over there. That's pretty good too though.

Alyy: 44:48

Yeah, my husband and I for Valentine's Day, we did like a this or that. Mm-hmm. So I like chose two different places in different parts of town and he had to pick a card. Oh. Oh yeah. Like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we did that for Valentine's Day and he picked end of days, but Valentine's Day was on a Tuesday and I didn't plan very well and they were closed. So we ended up going to Bull City for the first time. But it was

Roz: 45:12

really good. Yeah. I loved it.

Chris: 45:15

It's in a weird spot cuz it's like on the other side of 17th. Mm-hmm. So, yeah, it's not really on the outskirts, but it is. Mm-hmm. Like, I feel like more people will walk to ferment because it's on the street. You don't have to cross it. Don't even get, versus going over to bull City. But Pul City also got shot because they opened in July, like the end of July. Yeah. So I feel like it'll pick up more. Yeah. Speed. Well,

Alyy: 45:39

I miss

Chris: 45:40

Fer Mental. I know you do

Roz: 45:42

that. That was a walking distance for me. Isn't that would just reopen. Yeah.

Alyy: 45:46

They, they reopened a cargo full space.

Roz: 45:48

Yeah. But like literally, but there wasn't our end of town. It's right down the road. Yeah. Or was, I've

Chris: 45:54

been trying in the searching for like, well over a year to find a space that's affordable to open up a bottle shop up there.

Roz: 46:02

Ooh. In Ogden. Yeah. And it's come on up,

Chris: 46:05

man. It's not affordable. I don't say the

Tyler: 46:07

affordable part. Yeah, you need some backers.

Roz: 46:09

I was gonna say that's hard in Wilmington. Cause

Chris: 46:11

cuz Broom Tail has the, the arcade across from you guys. Mm-hmm. And I'm like, oh, it's so cool. But I know how Wilmington is, and you have to cross Market Street. Mm-hmm. That's a pain. Mm-hmm.

Alyy: 46:22

Well, I will tell you from the people that are on the other side of Market Street where ferment used to be, I know we, we, we've got Ogden tap room, which is great. Still walking distance technically for me, but I mean, you let me know when I'm

Chris: 46:36

No, no. I a couple months ago I looked and I was like, Ooh, if I could buy that Burger King. Oh, heck yeah. Mm-hmm. I'm like, yes, I would need a lot of money, but that, that would be the perfect spot for like a bar. Yep. And yeah, whatnot. Because it's hardy has trees.

Tyler: 46:52

Yeah. You might be able to get the town to help you out with that though, because I'm sure they don't want that ice where there either. Oh no,

Chris: 46:57

it's, I mean, burger King's still, it's still operating. Yeah, it has

Roz: 47:01

a four sale sign on it. Do you people still go to that though? I never see anyone there. It's a pain to turn into there. Everything, especially you turn into on Market Street and o. But

Alyy: 47:09

like now even more with the construction, like

Tyler: 47:11

I don't think I saw the four sale sign. I didn't realize it was still operating.

Alyy: 47:14

Yes, it is. I think it's been for sale since I moved there. Oh

Roz: 47:17

yeah. You know what I think is really cool, and I don't know if this is an option in Ogden, but like what Casablanca did and social supply did. Mm-hmm. They turn houses into commercial space, which is pretty cool.

Chris: 47:28

Casablanca wasn't a

Roz: 47:29

house. It wasn't, no. What was it?

Chris: 47:31

Long, ver. It's been multiple things

Roz: 47:35

over the years. Yeah. I can't even remember a world before Casablanca, but social supply definitely did in both of their spots. But Casablanca,

Chris: 47:42

if it was a house, it was a house like

Roz: 47:43

30 years ago. Okay. Well 30 years ago they turned it into whatever it is. Yeah. Is they turned it into a daycare. It was a daycare. Mm-hmm. I do wonder why Wilmington doesn't have more

47:54

daycare.

Chris: 47:55

There's a daycare and then a veterinarian. Office.

Roz: 47:58

I

Alyy: 47:58

remember they posted pictures like if you go way back in their Instagram, you can see like the renovations from that. It's

Roz: 48:04

so obviously laid out like a house that I like.

Chris: 48:07

Yeah. But like the weird spot is that it's been in that same spot, in that same configuration for three decades. Cuz I remember going there. As an afterschool program. Oh wow. And I'm like,

Tyler: 48:20

wow, this is the same, like this used to be the toy room. I

Chris: 48:26

really old. Cuz I remember the fire department was right beside it. Yeah. And then they tore down and rebuilt it. But yes, I would love that if we could build one of those. We'll keep an eye out for you. I don't think Ogden would

Roz: 48:36

let you do that. No. We'll manifest it for you. Yeah. There we go.

Chris: 48:40

I'd be so happy. So. As per usual, I, I gotta ask you a serious question. What does success look like for you for the What's Up Wilmington?

Roz: 48:54

Hmm. So I can answer that for the podcast cuz that's our newest, exciting adventure. I think for me, what success looks like is one for us to put out consistently good content that folks are gonna engage with and be a catalyst for community building. We don't wanna just sit here and interview folks and that's that. At the end of the day, we want it to be a way folks connect either with each other over common interest or with local businesses. Yeah,

Alyy: 49:22

and I think selfishly for me too, I really just love connecting with other business owners on a personal level. So being able to bring them in and get to know them better and see how, like what I can do to help them grow and see them succeed is important to me as well. Interesting. Mm-hmm.

Tyler: 49:42

And so we are starting to come from our time too. So I'll throw out the last question for you guys as well. So if you were to tell your younger self one thing, what would it be?

Roz: 49:51

Oh, I love this question. You go first. It gets better.

Alyy: 49:55

I love it. Yeah. Yeah. That's, that's always been something that I wish I could tell my younger self is it gets better life. Life isn't always the easiest sometimes. Mm-hmm. But it does get better. That's great. I love

Roz: 50:08

that. Yeah. Right. Man, this is a hard one. I've never really thought about this. If I could tell my younger self anything. Mm-hmm. Is to enjoy every step of the way. That's good. I think we get caught up in the day-to-day and stressed about the little things. But when I look back on my life as a whole, there's some really cool stuff that happened. Mm-hmm. And I, I think I was lucky enough to enjoy'em in the moment. So I think yeah, that's a good reminder.

Tyler: 50:33

Awesome. Good. I love it.

Chris: 50:35

I love to hear that. So we're gonna jump back to some fun stuff. Cool. Where can people find y'all? On social media, like you don't gotta use your

Alyy: 50:46

personal stuff, but like, well Raz can be found at what's up, Wilmington at What's up

Roz: 50:49

Wilmington on Instagram. Launching a website, www dot what's up? wilmington.com. And

Alyy: 50:56

then I will also be a part of that, but if you wanna find me on Instagram, I am Ali Blue, a l y y b l e a u, the French way with very fancy, I know. Is it on purpose? I don't know. Ask my husband.

Chris: 51:12

Oh, so this actual, actual name? Yeah.

Roz: 51:14

That's your actual name? Yeah.

Alyy: 51:16

My last name is Blue, but like, not like blue cheese though. I don't really know. Hmm.

Roz: 51:22

I guess I should like study his heritage or something. Don't worry. I still don't know mine.

Alyy: 51:26

Yeah. What happens when he takes somebody else's name, I guess? Yeah, true.

Chris: 51:32

So definitely check them out on Instagram. Social medias. They will have a podcast coming out. If it's out before this episode is, then we'll put that in the show notes. And if not, definitely keep an eye out. But yeah, shout out to Cargo District recording studios for letting us use the space mm-hmm. And burn up so much electricity. But yeah. Thank you ladies for coming on.

Roz: 51:53

Thanks for having us. Yeah. This space is super cool. Yeah, we love it. Shout out to Cargo District.

Chris: 51:59

Thank you. Always bringing something. Yes. Like, comment, share, subscribe, and hit that thumbs up button. And hopefully you'll see us on YouTube. Yeah. Cheers. Cheers. Cheers.